Fear was no excuse to condone torture

In the fear that followed the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, Americans were told that defeating Al Qaeda would require us to ``take off the gloves.'' As a former commandant of the U.S. Marine Corps and a retired commander-in-chief of U.S. Central Command, we knew that was a recipe for disaster.

But we never imagined that we would feel duty-bound to publicly denounce a vice president of the United States, a man who has served our country for many years. ... Full Story »

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by Jim Lang - Sep. 15, 2009

This is a clearly written and powerfully argued opinion piece by two retired 4 star generals. It prompted a short, essentially positive report in the AirForceTimes.

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by Glenn LaBauve - Sep. 15, 2009

Two of the highest ranking military leaders take Cheney to task.

Charles C. Krulak was commandant of the Marine Corps from 1995 to 1999. Joseph P. Hoar was commander in chief of U.S. Central Command from 1991 to 1994. More »

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by Ben Ross - Sep. 22, 2009

This is the standard view of educated and patriotic....well stated by retired military men.

Main Stream media would serve the US public by interview these men everyday until the investigations begin. I would like to know how they feel about ... More »

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by William Hughes-Games - Sep. 17, 2009

Clearly points out the ineffectiveness of the techniques used.

If you can ignore the moral repugnance of applying torture and the horrible psychological effect on the torturer, consider the well documented ... More »

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by Lynn Caporale - Sep. 16, 2009

On an issue discussed with intense opinions, it is a very good, and too rare, to see a forum given to professionals who both feel strongly and are well-informed about an issue. It would be very informative if we heard more from people with relevant experience, such as these thoughtful military leaders (and much less from uniformed opinionated people whose publicists have gotten them onto everyone's Roladex).

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by Paul Belle-Isle - Sep. 15, 2009

This is an opinion piece, but required reading nonetheless, as it is backed up solidly with facts.

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by Kristine Trickey - Nov. 4, 2009

I really enjoyed this article, I just wish there was more supporting information, especially because it is an editorial piece. I believe that more links and quotes would help to strengthen Krulak and Hoar's claims.

I definitely agree with the authors. I believe that what the US considers "interrogation tactics," are inexcusable and wrong. Torturing someone will ... More »

Torture is as likely to produce lies as the truth. And it did. More »

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